Basic dates and details about Countess
Alice
c. 1560 Birth |
Reported as 1559 and 1561. These seem to be inspired guesses rather than based on any extant record, but we can probably settle on c. 1560 as a fairly realistic date. |
Father |
Sir John Spencer (d. 1586) of Wormleighton, Warwickshire
and Althorp,
Northamptonshire (from the family tree at Althorp). The family was regarded at
the time as "nouveaux riches”,
having made their fortune from sheep rearing. At the top of their family tree
(at Althorp) is William Spencer of Delford, Worcs. (fl. c. 1330), with Sir
John”s
grandfather Sir William Spencer (d. 1532) as the first at Althorp. Intriguingly, intervening generations were in
Snitterfield, near |
Mother |
Catherine, daughter of Sir Thomas Kitson of Hengrove,
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Place in family |
Youngest (?) of three (surviving) daughters. (She is reported
on occasion as the eldest and one of six daughters.) She certainly had two sisters who made
notable marriages in Shakespeare circles, and a brother, another Sir John
Spencer, who had a house in |
1560-78/9 Youth |
Nothing has been discovered about her life before her first marriage. There is no portrait at Althorp, nor any detail reported about her there. |
c. 1578/9 Marriage, when |
To Ferdinando Stanley, Lord Strange, son and heir of Henry,
4th Earl of Derby and Margaret Clifford, daughter of the
2nd Earl of Cumberland. It was through his mother that he had a claim
to the throne. She was a granddaughter of Mary Tudor, younger sister of Henry
VIII, and therefore first cousin of another granddaughter, Lady Jane Grey
(executed in 1554 after being “Queen
for nine days”).
Most previous accounts in He had spent some of his youth at court, being groomed in the
manners and life-style appropriate to his future role as Earl of Derby, virtual
“king”
of Lancashire, Cheshire and the Isle of Man, and Queen Elizabeth”s
bulwark in these areas. He had been matriculated at |
1580 May. Birth of daughter Ann, and some of her very interesting relatives. |
This date is reported by Seacome, from the age of the three daughters still surviving and named in Ferdinando”s will of 1594. It is uncertain who she was named after, but certainly neither of her grandmothers (Catherine and Margaret) or her mother Alice. The closest Ann to Alice in 1580 was her sister, married at
the time to another Lancashire Stanley
Lord, William, 3rd Baron Mounteagle (as his second[?] wife, and he
died in 1581 Ð
according to the Spencer family tree at Althorp). This fact alone brings the
Mounteagles into If any reader is confused already, this is merely an echo of
my confusion as I tried to sort out all the Sir Thomas, Sir Edward and Sir
William Stanleys in the 16th and 17th centuries. These names were repeated in so many
generations, and their lives overlapped so often, that I fear that some might
well have been (con)fused. Ultimately, genealogical charts for all of
these will be produced, but for the moment I can only direct any interested
reader to all the charts and reports of the Some of these gradually emerged from a comparison of details
in the publications above with other sources. Ferdinando”s
uncles Sir Thomas and Sir Edward Stanley of Winwick (younger brothers of
4th Earl Henry) had both been instrumental in planning to rescue
Mary, Queen of Scots in 1570 and spirit her away to the Isle of Man. This “plot”
was never put into action (and perhaps was never given a name because of this)
but they were both imprisoned and fined. Both Sir Thomas and Sir Edward were
named as ÒTraitorsÓ
by Seacome (one can only assume because of the “plotting”).
Plots, by their very nature, seem to have been surrounded by secrecy and the
official version afterwards often contained falsifications. No wonder they still
cause controversy today. Sir Edward went to fight in The Netherlands (in the war
that saw the first English contingent arriving there in 1585) and seems to have
died in exile there (1609). It is not at all certain which side he fought on,
but as he died in exile, it seems likely that he joined the English Catholics in
exile in Sir Thomas of Winwick stayed in Sir Thomas”s
son and heir was another Sir Edward Stanley (1562-1632), and these two bear the
distinction of having the only completely authenticated epitaphs written for
them by Shakespeare, later chiselled in stone on their tomb in Tong Parish
Church and still there today. This is another ongoing story as a background to
Countess Alice and her newly acquired This particular story started with the recording of the text
of the epitaphs in Tong Parish Church by poet and antiquarian John Weever (from
Preston, with a biography in the DNB) and historian, antiquarian and King
of Arms Sir William Dugdale (whose father was from Lancashire, and also with a
biography in the DNB). Both of these recordings of epitaphs were in the
17th century, not too long after Shakespeare”s
death in 1616, by people who were fairly close to many involved in the “Shakespeare
in The middle of this story leaps a few centuries later when
various scholars and academics in the 20th century perceived some of
these details of the Shakespeare epitaphs in Tong. My main hero in this area is
Professor E. A. J. Honigmann. His main
contributions about the epitaphs in Ferdinando and Alice”s daughter Ann was to play a role in national history when she was proposed by Jesuit Robert Parsons in 1595 as a strong candidate for the throne after Elizabeth I”s death. This was because of Ferdinando”s descent from Henry VII via his mother, Margaret Clifford, half-sister of George Clifford, 3rd Earl of Cumberland and grand-daughter of Mary Tudor, Henry VIII”s sister and Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk. By this time Margaret”s marriage to Earl Henry had collapsed irrevocably, although they still must have had some contact when both were at court. Margaret had produced four sons: Ferdinando, William, Francis and Edward, only the first two surviving to adulthood and marriage. Earl Henry had meanwhile had two sons and two daughters by his mistress Jane Halsall of Knowsley, and the two daughters in particular, Ursula and Dorothy, have been linked to Shakespeare circles. |
1581 Aug |
William Shakeshafte was named in Alexander Hoghton”s will. If this was young William Shakespeare, the terms of the will would have seen him moving to Sir Thomas Hesketh”s household at Rufford Old Hall for a short time (according to Hesketh family tradition) and perhaps moving on to Strange”s Players in late 1581 or early 1582 Ð or joining them later in this decade. No records have survived, so any suggestion in this area is pure speculation. However, the recorded later association of Strange”s Players performing some of Shakespeare”s early plays (in the early 1590s) indicates some previous link. If young Will, aged 17 in 1581, had already shown a few glimpses of his future dramatic and poetic genius, then he might well have come to the attention of Earl Henry and son Ferdinando, both theatre lovers and patrons of a troupe of players. Whatever the “truth”, and purely speculatively, this year (and one or two years previously) would have provided the first opportunity for Shakespeare to have met Ferdinando and Alice. |
1582 Aug |
Earl Henry attended Preston Guild with sons Ferdinando,
William and Francis and most of the local |
1583 Jan Birth of daughter Frances. |
Date reported by Seacome. The gap of nearly three years since the first daughter leads one to suspect that there might have been another child in between, who did not survive. |
1587 Birth of daughter Elizabeth. |
Date reported by Seacome. The gap of four years again
suggests another possible child. All accounts agree that these three daughters
( |
1587-90 |
These three years are those covered by the |
1589 Nov 28 |
The “affray
at Lea”.
(For an account of this, see Alexander Standish”s
biography.) This involved several people close to the |
1593 Sep 25 Earl Henry died. Some more illustrious relatives. |
Ferdinando automatically became 5th Earl of Derby
and |
1593 |
By this date Ferdinando had been the patron of Strange”s
Players for at least a few years. They were a touring company, which played
several times at court. They changed their name briefly to Derby”s
Players after his becoming Earl of Derby in late 1593, but it is not at all
clear whether he was the patron of these, or whether his wife/ widow Alice was
their patroness after Ferdinando”s
death the following year. (Might brother William Stanley, 6th Earl,
have taken them over for a short period?) The only known portrait of Alice,
hanging today on the wall of the Dining Room at Knowsley Hall, seems to present
her in her thirties, therefore painted around 1593 (give or take a few years
previously). This was reproduced in black and white in Bagley, The |
1593 Sep Ð Nov The Hesketh Plot |
The most recent account is in Edwards, Plots and
Plotters. He is impeccable on documentary sources and such 'facts' that we
know, but I query some of his interpretations on motives by various characters
involved. The basic story is that Richard Hesketh of Aughton (half-brother of
Alexander Hoghton”s
second wife Elizabeth nŽe
Hesketh of Aughton Ð
named in the 1581 will) travelled from Flanders to Lancashire with a letter that
offered the support of English Catholics in exile for Ferdinando as the
successor to Elizabeth I”s
throne, with the promise of military support from Spain (another Armada?).
Everyone seems to have been in rather a tizzy at the time, the case was never
explained satisfactorily and this has provided rich ground for much speculation,
conspiracy theories, etc. (There undoubtedly was a conspiracy, but no one at the
time or ever since has been able to establish who exactly was involved, how and
why.) Two important recorded facts of deaths emerge: Richard Hesketh was
tortured and subsequently executed in |
1594 April Ferdinando died. |
The story of his agonising death after eleven days of
suffering is told in all |
1594-1607 |
Coward, The Stanleys (1983) gives the most complete
account of all the land transactions. William, 6th Earl of Derby, had
to sell many estates to pay the required compensation to Countess Alice and her
daughters. The dispute over the Isle of Man left William rather bitter when he
had to buy it from |
1595 Jan William married Elizabeth de Vere at |
From now on there were two contemporary Countesses of Derby, which makes any references between 1595 and 1627 suspect; Countess Elizabeth died in 1627, which removed her from the picture in this year, leaving just Countess Alice until her death in 1639. William and Elizabeth”s son and heir James (born 1607) had married in 1625, but until he became 7th Earl of Derby after his father”s death in 1642, he and his wife were always known as Lord and Lady Strange. This marriage (William Stanley Ð
Elizabeth de Vere) also brought about another confusion
in the in-law relationship of two earls proposed as Alternative Shakespeare
Authorship Candidates: William and his father-in-law Edward de Vere,
17th Earl of Oxford. The only conclusion I draw from this is that
they (along with other candidates) were all so intimately related, and so
obviously moved in Shakespeare circles (or he in theirs), that there was every
opportunity for a regular exchange of ideas, maybe even plots for plays and
maybe even some lines of poems. Edward de Vere is on contemporary record as a
poet and playwright in the 1590s and William Stanley as a playwright in the
1599s (and perhaps poet in the 1580s). Neither of them was Shakespeare, but they
must have known him, which perhaps explains some of the confusion, although not
the acrimony poured out on thousands of pages in the 20th
century. For anyone still confused about
this confusion, I recommend Who Wrote Shakespeare? by John Michell,
Thames and Edward de Vere”s
wife was Ann Cecil, daughter of Sir William, Lord Burghley, and sister of Sir
Robert, later Earl of Salisbury, which presumably brought the Cecils into the
During the years after his marriage William is recorded on
occasion in Lancashire and Meanwhile, William, 6th of We have moved far away from Countess Alice”s biography, but somehow her shadow, and certainly the shadow of her friend Alexander Standish of Duxbury and her brother-in-law William, 6th Earl of Derby, seem to be relevant for various later stories. Alexander died in 1622, and so disappears from Countess Alice”s immediate story after the following year, but his sons and grandsons lived on in Duxbury and became tangled up in the Civil War; Countess Alice died in 1637 and was so spared the knowledge of how her descendants would also become tangled up in the Civil War; Rev. William Leigh, Rector of Standish (from 1586) died in 1639, and was thus spared the knowledge of so many of his parishioners and friends fighting against each other; William Stanley, 6th Earl of Derby died in September 1642, and was thus spared the knowledge that his son and heir James was later beheaded in 1651 in Bolton. I have read widely in many published accounts of contemporary stories, and have come to the interim conclusion that we still have a lot to learn and sort out about events from Tudor through Stuart times, including various “Catholic Plots” and the Civil War. This interim conclusion was not difficult to arrive at, given the dissent in academic circles.
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1600 |
Their marriage seems to have been rather stormy. Sir Thomas
certainly complained about her sharp tongue on one occasion. At this point
Alice”s
biography by Lancashire historians starts to dry up, and we need to turn to
|
1601 Bought Harefield in Middlesex. |
It seems (from the evidence given below) that this was a joint purchase by Countess Alice and her second husband or a gift from him to her. |
1602 Entertained Queen Elizabeth. |
At Harefield (with all dates and details given below). Soon
after this he became Baron Ellesmere, taking his name from an estate in
|
1607 Act of Parliament. |
Final settlement of the |
1609 Lady Anne Clifford and others |
The marriage in this year of Lady Anne Clifford (Ferdinando
and William”s
first cousin) to Richard Sackville, 3rd Earl of Dorset, presents many
intriguing (potential) relationships of relevance to Countess Alice. On record
is the fact that Samuel Daniel (poet, historian, an admirer of and inspiration
for Shakespeare with their respective sonnets and dramas in the 1590s apparently
cross-fertilising each other) was her tutor. This is proved, among many records,
by his portrait and biography appearing on the magnificent Lady Anne tryptich in
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1617 2nd husband died. |
Baron Ellesmere, meanwhile Viscount Brackley, refused an
earldom on his deathbed, but his son Sir John Egerton went on to perform great
services and be rewarded accordingly as the 1st Earl of Bridgewater.
All three daughters had meanwhile married and produced families. Ann married
Grey Bridges, 5th Lord Chandos; Frances married Sir John Egerton (so
mother Alice and daughter Frances were married to father Sir Thomas and son Sir
John, the latter meanwhile 1st Earl of Bridgewater; and Elizabeth
married the 5th Earl of Huntingdon. (These marriages appear on the
pedigree chart in Coward, The Stanleys, entitled ÒSimplified
pedigree of the Stanleys of Knowsley c. 1385-1672Ó.
They are confirmed by all other Let us start with his reception at |
1617-22 |
This period is so far a total blank about Countess Alice. |
1622-23 |
Countess Alice was living in Anglezarke, a manor purchased by
Alexander Standish of Duxbury from William, 6th Early of Derby, via
intermediaries, some time after c. 1600. His family had owned various lands
there previously, but he only became Lord of the Manor in the early 1600s.
Alexander died in 1622, having been a widower since 1604. (All known details
about him appear under his own biography.) It is not known when Three relevant recorded facts remain, which provide a case for some ponderings: (1) Alexander Standish (born 1570/I) never remarried after the death of his wife Alice nŽe Assheton in 1604, although Alexander was aged only in his mid-thirties at this time; (2) Alice, Countess of Derby, went through two marriages, but on the death of her second husband in 1617, when she was in her late fifties, did not marry again; (3) Alexander (born 1570/1) and Alice (born c. 1560) fairly obviously had an intimate enough relationship for Alexander to install Alice at Anglezarke. Beyond these facts, the mind can only boggle and ask questions. What led Alexander, in his mid-thirties in 1604, not to seek a new bride among the many eligible local daughters and widows? What led Countess Alice not to seek a third husband in the higher echelons of society after 1617? One tentative answer might be that they had found each other. |
1636 |
By this date (shortly before her death) |
1637 Countess Alice died. |
The location of her will, and a full transcription of this, lies in the future. Maybe an examination of this will reveal a few more relevant details. |
1639 |
She was mentioned in the will of Rev. William Leigh, Rector
of Standish 1586-1639, Chaplain to the Earls of Derby, tutor to Prince Henry,
etc. (His biography is in the |
c. 1640 |
We have no idea of the date of the construction of her tomb
in |